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and people might decide, given the range of alternative appointments, maybe she's not -- john kerry might be a worse secretary of state. so, maybe, one goes ahead and lets him have the secretary of state he wants or one vote against it, as senators will say she was not forthcoming, obviously in september and should have known better than to say what she said, and vote against it but since democrats control the senate i'm assuming she'll get confirmed. >> chris: what is wrong with john kerry as secretary of state. obviously he is not who you would appoint but as a democratic... >> susan rice is more interventionist than john kerry. he's the guy who has been against -- every we're, the first gulf war, and, the iraqi war, he was against it and i think susan rice might go along with juan and say, the light footprint thing is not working out so well and not having presence in libya and not intervening in syria... >> chris: push for the intervention of -- >> yes, and, it's not my administration, not my choice but if one thinks, it is incredibly dangerous moment, thanks to the light footprint, a
's an easy pick, pick john kerry, the republicans like one of their own, he's a senator. they also have a political interest in that. if john kerry is elevated to a cabinet position, they eventually has to be a vote in a special election, scott brown just loss. there's a lot of press going on in addition to the president having to make a tough policy choice. >> thank you very much. john king reporting. republicans on capitol hill keep asking the president to show them where he wants to cut not just who he wants to tax. joining us now is the number three man in the senate republican leadership, senator john thune of south dakota. senator, thanks very much for coming in. >> good afternoon, wolf. >> before i get to the fiscal cliff and the taxes, spending cuts, are you ready to make an announcement on how you would vote as far as confirmation of susan rice is concerned if the president nominated her to be secretary of state? >> i'm not ready to make that determination right now. but i do think that her meetings up here have raised lots of questions. and there are more reservations about he
of them. in addition to ambassador rice, some have suggested the president considering senator john kerry. national security adviser tom donilon and on the short list as well, i want to bring in doug brinkley to join us. first of all, thank you very much. put this in perspective, if you have. we've seen this develop over the last couple of days and even the last couple of hours. the critics are not satisfied at all with what they are hearing. is there a point, is there a time now when perhaps the administration is thinking, cut their losses, this is not necessarily the right nominee? >> i would hope that that rubicon occurred today when senator collins turned her back on rice, that was not a good omen for rice becoming secretary of state. it's been a lot of testing and trial balloons making confirmation hearing. she very possibly likely could. but it will be a bruised affair and i'm not sure our country needs that right now. she's a fantastic american, great diplomat, but might be better working in the white house since president obama admires her so much as national security adviser. joh
rice might be intersvennist than john kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on. you've got issues that have to do with egypt, foreign aid to egypt. you have gaza. why do you want to have another ring there? and start dealing with this confirmation battle which is as wolf pointed out earlier the optics of a confirmation battle with susan rice. african-american woman. two groups that the republican party did not do very well with i might add in the last election. >> acknowledging they need to do better. >> i don't mean to impugn john mccain or lindsey graham for criticizing her. i think they have their reasons and nothing to do with anything other than beng
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